STUDENT: What did you do before the web to find papers?
BILL: We went to the library and copied papers to read later.
STUDENT: Did you read them later?
BILL: Well, uh,hmm, ...
BILL to a professor in his 80's: What did you do before copy machines?
PROF: We went to the library, took the journal off of the shelf, and read the article. We may also have taken notes on paper on the article.
Back to 2025: I do the following sequence of events with a branch point at the end.
1) Get interested in some problem.
I give an example:
Rado's Theorem for equations with a constant. Short summary:
Rado's Theorem: Let \(a_1,\ldots,a_n\) be integers. The following are equivalent
--For all finite colorings of \(N^{\ge 1}\) there is a monochromatic solution to \(\sum_{i=1}^n a_ix_i= 0\)
--Some subset of \(a_1,\ldots,a_n\) sums to 0.
My interest: What if we look at equations which replace 0 by some other constant? AND what if you just want to look at (say) 2-colorings?
2) Assemble a website of papers on the topic.
I assembled a website of papers on the Rado question. I did that. The website is here.
3) I then read the papers and understand them. Or not.
I intend to do the following:
a) Read the paper with pen and pad and take notes, draw diagrams, do examples. I may create some handwritten notes. The benefit of the notes is from making them. The actual notes are terrible.
b) Type in the notes and while doing that polish them. I might work with a student on this.
c) If needed make slides out of the proof for presentation.
I sometimes go straight from the paper to the slides. I've stopped doing that since it is valuable to first go through the Understanding the proof phase before going to the Best way to present the proof phase.
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Step 3 can be a problem. I have many website of papers that I never got around to reading. The key for me is to strike while the iron is hot that is, SOON after assembling the papers READ them.
For Rado's Theorem with constants I have not gotten around to reading any of the papers yet.
There is some benefit to having to read a paper in the library since then you actually read it. I am NOT saying things were better when I was a kid. The lesson is more of how to combine current technology with the helpful constraints of a prior era.
Another approach: go to the library and look through journals to find something interesting. I've done this a few times with success. I blogged about one of them here
I have gone from stacks of photocopies of papers whose abstracts I have read to folders of PDFs whose abstracts I have read.
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@bill, thanks for this nice and quite relevant post. Glad to hear that you don't side-step *attempting to fully understand the proof*, by otherwise going directly to slides. Deliberately using the verb "attempting," because, come on, how many of us are really fully understanding a proof in all its details. If we did, we might have spotted some mistakes or errata in the proof and gotten even more confused than illuminated. Some of the past posts highlight this.
ReplyDeleteNow you bring up old memories, going deep inside the Harvard Stacks looking for that hidden journal that was hopefully filed correctly; it was a rather intimidating experience. Sometimes there was literally no other soul down there; sometimes you would stumble across one person and feel somewhat ironical safe. But it was always a bit intimidating. Harvard stacks time equated to true solitude. Once you opened up that journal, time would slowly disappear and the 15 minutes would turn into 45 minutes. The probably moldy air was not the best.
Lamont library used to be a favorite place, unsure why; its interior architecture was simply nicer i suppose. Cabot science library was not very appealing, even though on a lucky day you might bump into noam elkies who would be wearing shorts along a long coat during winter times, looking for what seemed to be a specific journal paper ... and then taking a peek at it and disappearing.
Indeed! You could get lost in the Harvard stacks both geographicaly and intellectually. Sometimes you find hidden gems, sometimes you go down rabbit holes, sometimes you can't tell the difference.
DeleteI'm surprised that you create a website. Are you expecting other people to find it on their own? If not, I would think just keeping a text file containing the URLs would be simpler and easy to distribute to others via email.
ReplyDeleteDudley, my advisor at MIT, once posted on his office door how he found some paper through a long process by using the citation indexes, journal references, etc.
1) I keep it on a website so I can find it.
Delete2) I email the website to students who I work with. This may be many over many years so good to have it all in one place.
3) While I did not intend this, and the websites are not that user-friendly, several people who I did not know have thanked me for being the place to go to FIND Ramsey papers. I wish I was the person to goto who READ those papers.