Sunday, July 20, 2025

A Prez Question: Can AI do it? Can you? Can I?

 I am curious how AI or humans can do on the following question.

I have listed out the nominees for Prez and VP (Vice Prez) since 1976 and put them in two categories.

What criteria did I use?

The criteria is about their lives. So it's not going to be something like

The ones in GROUP ONE have last names with at most 3 vowels.

A few notes before the lists:

1) You may come up with  criteria I didn't come up with.  It may even be outside of my rules- for example about vowels. Fine- I will be curious if some criteria like that happen to be equivalent to my criteria.

2) You can use whatever you want- Wikipedia, ChatGPT, your friend who knows a lot about presidents.

3) Leave comments with your proposed answer AND HOW YOU GOT IT, though be warned to NOT go to the comments if you want to work on it yourself, since the right answer might be there.

4) There are people who were the nominees for Prez or VP several times.
I want the list to be in chronological order. I list everyone only once.
What to do about (say) the fact
that Bob Dole ran for VP in 1976 and for Prez in 1996?
I list people in order of the FIRST time they were the nominee.
So I have:

VP 1976. Prez-1996
Bob Dole

5) I added some misc information for fun. That information is NOT relevant to the solution. 

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GROUP ONE:

VP-1976 and 1980. Prez-1984
Walter Mondale

Prez-1976
Gerald Ford

VP-1976. Prez-1996
Bob Dole

VP-1984
Geraldine Ferraro

Prez-1988
Michael Dukakis

VP-1988
Lloyd Bentson

VP-1988 and 1992
Dan Quayle

Prez-1992 and 1996
Bill Clinton

VP-1992 and  1996. Prez-2000
Al Gore

VP-2000
Joe Lieberman

Prez-2004
John Kerry

VP-2004
John Edwards

Prez-2008 and 2012
Barack Obama

Prez-2012
Mitt Romney

VP-2008 and 2012. Prez-2020
Joe Biden

Prez-2016
Hillary Clinton

VP-2016
Tim Kaine

VP-2016 and 2020
Mike Pence

VP-2020. Prez-2024
Kamala Harris

VP-2024
J.D Vance

(The only names that were flagged for being misspelled are Dukakis, Bentson, Kamala.)

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GROUP TWO

Prez-1976 and 1980
Jimmy Carter

Prez-1980 and 1984
Ronald Reagan

VP-1980 and 1984, Prez-1988 and 1992.
George H.W. Bush
(Not counting the early elections which had different rules,
I think the only other person who got the nomination twice for VP
and twice for president is Richard Nixon. If I am wrong, let me know.)

VP-1996
Jack Kemp

Prez-2000 and 2004
George W Bush

VP-2000 and 2004
Dick Cheney

Prez-2008
John McCain

VP-2008
Sarah Palin

VP-2012
Paul Ryan

Prez-2016 and 2020 and 2024
Donald Trump

VP-2024
Tim Walz

(The only name that was flagged for being misspelled was Walz.) 

8 comments:

  1. Their education/profession?

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    1. If you want me to confirm or deny that general category than email me privately- no need to give others hints who don't want them.

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  2. Shouldn't that be "VP-2008 Sarah Palin" not "Prez-2008 Sarah Palin"?

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  3. Attended law school. It was easier for me to look at group 2 and guess what they had in common that group 1 didn't. The Carter/Reagan/Bush trio was the most helpful clue for group 2 since they were famously non-lawyers. Al Gore almost tricked me since he never graduated law school and didn't practice law so it's not a very memorable part of his biography. Most of the other people in group 1 had prominent careers in law (e.g.: Ferraro, Harris, both Clintons, Obama) or law school was a key part of their biography (e.g.: Vance), though I did need to double-check on Wikipedia the several that I didn't know enough about.

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    1. 1) YES that is what I was looking for.
      2) You point out that Al Gore is an issue since he dropped out of Law School. There is another issue: Dole, Ford, and Bentson got an LLB which was at one time an UNDERGRAD degree in law, though the website for them indicates that it really was a JD.
      3) My main point was if a HUMAN would to better than an AI. Comparing your answer to the one by E below, humans so far are doing much better.

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  4. I asked Gemini, CoPilot, ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity the question, "What do all of Walter Mondale, Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, Geraldine Ferraro, Michael Dukakis, Lloyd Bentson, Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Tom Kaine, Mike Pence, Kamala Harris, and J.D Vance have in common with each other, but not in common with any of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Jack Kemp, George W Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Donald Trump, or Tim Walz?"

    All five gave very confident answers which were wrong.

    Flipping the question as "What do all of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Jack Kemp, George W Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Donald Trump, and Tim Walz have in common with each other, but not in common with any of Walter Mondale, Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, Geraldine Ferraro, Michael Dukakis, Lloyd Bentson, Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, John Edwards, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Tom Kaine, Mike Pence, Kamala Harris, or J.D Vance?" did not help.

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  5. Tim Kaine, not Tom Kaine

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