SO, is TMFCS08 bogus or not? First off, Bogus to me is not a matter of quality There are some unrefereed conferences I go to that I enjoy and get something out of. They also have LOW registration fees. Bogus means that they are putting it on soley to make money and are offering nothing intellectual in return. Of course, if enough good people goto a bogus conference then they will talk to each other, so maybe it is worth it. But it depends on the price.
I emailed Mike Sipser. Below is his response, which
includes a response from the conference organizers.
(I have edited it down a bit but have not changed
the content. I also have one clarifying remark.)
I'm sending you the response from one of the conference organizers.
From what they say this practice occurs at other conferences.
I believe the conference is a real one, though I don't directly
know the primary individuals involved. My personal role has been
minor, just answering a few emails and giving a little advice.
(REMARK FROM BILL: THIS EMAIL BELOW IS FROM THE CONF ORGANIZER TO
SOMEONE WHO GOT PAPERS IN AND INQUIRED ABOUT IT.)
From: Bhanu Prasad
Subject: Is TMFCS-08 a real conference?
This email is in response to your email sent to Prof. Sipser. Prof.
Sipser asked me to look into this. Hence I am responding.
I learned that you submitted two papers and requested the conference
people to conduct the review fast. They (conference people) have
informed you the acceptance, along with the review results as soon as
they received from the reviewers. Then you asked them to send the
invoice for payment of fee using PayPal. They have sent it. Then you
asked if the fee is for both the papers or for one paper. They
informed that the fee is for one paper but they reduced the fee for
the 2nd paper by 30%.
For your information, I am aware of several conferences where they do
not even reduce the fee for the 2nd paper. See for example,
http://conferences.computer.org/scc/2007/registr.html . They clearly
indicated the following: "Each paper needs at least one FULL
registration, before the camera-ready manuscript can be included in
the proceedings. There is no student rate for the author who is
responsible for registration for his/her published paper. If you have
more than one accepted paper, you need to register for each one
individually. There is no discount if you have two or more papers
For your information, it is a real conference (because the people in
that are real and I was there in 2007 conference, and it will have
I don't think a fake conference will become real just because they
collect one fee for both the papers.
Best regards, Bhanu Prasad, Organizing committee