tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post8565965427617437841..comments2021-09-14T11:25:32.611-05:00Comments on Computational Complexity: Math MoviesLance Fortnowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06752030912874378610noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-22858390878487998982016-10-31T03:03:58.189-05:002016-10-31T03:03:58.189-05:00Good will Hunting is a very good movie..Good will Hunting is a very good <a href="http://www.alluc.ee/stream/fantasy" rel="nofollow">movie</a>.. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842378288125716656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-6945426428114112102016-06-14T16:51:24.145-05:002016-06-14T16:51:24.145-05:00I am not sure I understand how Ramanujan's sto...I am not sure I understand how Ramanujan's story is "just not that dramatically interesting." <br /><br />"A college-dropout goes from starving in poverty to elected Fellow of the Royal Society in ~5 years, while proving a maze of results that keep mathematicians busy for the next 100 years, and then dies of tuberculosis at age 32." <br /><br />I am actually having trouble trying to imagine what <em>is</em> "dramatically interesting" if that is not. Why, it is probably too dramatic even for drama!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-22989002137157584522016-06-11T19:57:33.480-05:002016-06-11T19:57:33.480-05:00Movies are entertainment, fictitious and not meant...Movies are entertainment, fictitious and not meant to inform.<br /><br />You should never confuse your fiction with your histories or facts.<br /><br />That said, they can make a movie about Ramanujan where he is portrayed as an independent, capable and powerful black woman who solves and important math problem and then goes on to have steamy romance with an attractive Hollywood hero.<br /><br />If you're trying to simultaneously teach mathematics and make money on big screens that sell sex, good versus evil narratives, explosions and potty humor - you're already doing something wrong.<br /><br />The medium is the message. As pseudo-accurate as you think you're going to be with technical facts nobody is going to come out of a 90 minute high definition experience understanding number theory better than if they watched Independence Day: Resurgence of the Alien Invaders God Bless America II.<br /><br />So the answer is "Mu": the dichotomy presented in the question does not exist.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10025497592674057659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-27351356839463256062016-06-10T20:14:29.332-05:002016-06-10T20:14:29.332-05:00I loved E.T.Bell's "Men of Mathematics&qu...I loved E.T.Bell's "Men of Mathematics" as a child, even though historians of math claim it is full of innacuracies. It can even be a pleasure to find out that the real story is more complicated than what you were told, once you are engaged and interested in the topic by a simple story. Next great math movie: Galois, or the Brouwer-Hilbert controversy?Bill Hessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13162885630027119791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-27044877391535775442016-06-09T11:39:32.162-05:002016-06-09T11:39:32.162-05:00I enjoyed the Ramanujan movie (the second half mor...I enjoyed the Ramanujan movie (the second half moreso than the first half), but admittedly it helps to know the story going in. It may not be as powerful for people seeing it with little familiarity of Ramanujan. And I'm sorry the movie doesn't better get across the profundity of Ramanujan's work given his background; instead it's more a drama of the relationship between he and Hardy. Even if Ramanujan's life was not "dramatically interesting" it is one of the most fascinating lives in all of mathematics, but that unfortunately draws a narrow audience."Shecky Riemann"https://www.blogger.com/profile/07065658607024191185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-29378010426881684022016-06-09T08:56:25.912-05:002016-06-09T08:56:25.912-05:00I saw the movie this weekend and thought it was a ...I saw the movie this weekend and thought it was a great movie. I thought the arc of the story was nice in itself, but was much more excited about being able to have something so closely related to what I do on the big screen. Afterwards I found myself explaining a lot of different concepts to friends and discussing the need for proofs in math vs the 'intuition' and how different proof styles are more understandable than others. I even brought up the book by James Robert Brown "Philosophy of Mathematics" which discusses things like platonic proofs, picture proofs, constructive proofs and a bunch of other stuff. <br /><br />Larger scale, I thought the movie did a good job contrasting Hardy and Ramanujan and I think this contrast gets at the heart of why some people struggle with advanced mathematics. Ramanujan had a great skill to notice patterns (loved the statement about how equation has no meaning unless its a thought from God), but Hardy contrasted that with questions about convincing others of this. I believe at one point there's a question "are we supposed to take you at your word"? <br /><br />In response to your question though, I don't really depend on movies to 'educate' me. Its always nice when I can watch and recognize, "hey, they just proved Lagrange's theorem", but I don't see that as the art of Hollywood. Even a fantasy book that had a high level of math is difficult to keep interesting. But the way society's moving with the trends of science and its impact and the people who are generally covered by the news or followed on facebook/twitter being more and more tech gurus instead of just celebrities, I think we'll see more and more of the stories behind mathematics hit the big screen. Charles Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566550724904986112noreply@blogger.com