tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post4522810956010432602..comments2024-03-18T23:13:09.570-05:00Comments on Computational Complexity: How much does it cost to produce an online Journal? Do I hear $0.00?Lance Fortnowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06752030912874378610noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-82478610982148186952009-03-16T04:04:00.000-05:002009-03-16T04:04:00.000-05:00Anonymous said "Must guarantee that the papers sta...Anonymous said "Must guarantee that the papers stay accessible in their exact form (unless changes are desired in, say, a survey article), for basically forever".<BR/><BR/>There already exists working solutions for this : pre-print archives. Websites like arxiv.org are already hosting PDF papers.<BR/><BR/>In my humble opinion, the next electronic journals will be websites that helps people to manage a peer-review system.<BR/><BR/>Just like this project : http://sciwi.sourceforge.netnojhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109653210585836352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-22872253776388441352009-03-07T18:53:00.000-06:002009-03-07T18:53:00.000-06:00Running a journal does cost money. The free journa...Running a journal does cost money. The free journals simply found a way to pass on the costs to someones(s). Elsevier, however, is motivated not by costs, but by profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-65160395689837662842009-03-05T10:02:00.000-06:002009-03-05T10:02:00.000-06:00Another example is Discrete Mathematics and Theore...Another example is <A HREF="http://www.dmtcs.org/dmtcs-ojs/index.php/dmtcs" REL="nofollow">Discrete Mathematics and Theoretical Computer Science</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-47727341671707538422009-03-04T22:20:00.000-06:002009-03-04T22:20:00.000-06:00Well for some electronic journal to be more than j...Well for some electronic journal to be more than just a site that collects papers it needs a few things:<BR/><BR/>1) Has to have an editorial board that runs the usual acceptance process. Easy.<BR/>2) Editing. Printed journals have professional editors (not the scientific editors) that will help to make papers look better. This is probably expendable.<BR/>2) Must guarantee that the papers stay accessible in their exact form (unless changes are desired in, say, a survey article), for basically forever. Many universities will be able to guarantee that they can host a website indefinitely, individuals and most companies will not (yes, even science publishers could easily go bancrupt, and I wouldn't be surprised if Elsevier would in fact run out of money in the future). Printed journals may be hard to access compared to online journals, but articles will not get lost completely as long as a sufficient number of libraries collect them. An electronic journal should guarantee the availability of its papers.<BR/><BR/>I doubt the price of hosting and maintaining an electronic journal exceeds what a cs department can shell out if they really want to, after all they all have a website, and the amount of data and traffic are probably negligible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-21585750605225735982009-03-04T16:21:00.000-06:002009-03-04T16:21:00.000-06:00A free-access TCS journal that is doing fairly wel...A free-access TCS journal that is doing fairly well is <A HREF="http://www.lmcs-online.org/index.php" REL="nofollow">Logical Methods in Computer Science</A>. I wish that more members of the TCS community submitted to that journal, which also publishes survey articles. See <A HREF="http://www.lmcs-online.org/ojs/surveyArticles.php?cu=1" REL="nofollow">here</A>. <BR/><BR/>I agree with JS. It should be possible to find sponsors for open-access journals (and, why not, conference and workshop proceedings), and universities could play a very useful role there even in these times of hardship.Luca Acetohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092671728833265127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-6357546898513234052009-03-04T14:53:00.000-06:002009-03-04T14:53:00.000-06:00Here's a long list of free electronic math journal...Here's a long list of free electronic math journals<BR/>http://stat-www.berkeley.edu/users/mathsurv/ejournals.html<BR/><BR/>I found it linked from John Baez's page "What We Can Do About Science Journals" <BR/>http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/journals.html<BR/>that includes discussion about appropriate pricing, steps researchers can take to improve the situation, and links to detailed information, such as the price for all mathematics journals<BR/>http://www.ams.org/membership/journal-survey.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-67544726089518227812009-03-04T12:51:00.000-06:002009-03-04T12:51:00.000-06:00I think this is not the right question to ask. I t...I think this is not the right question to ask. I think the right question is the following: who could sponsor it?<BR/><BR/>It does not need to be a lot of money. Perhaps just a permission to spend some fraction of your working hours to run the journal + basic IT resources (e.g., web hosting, IT support, backups (!), email accounts, mailing lists, conference calls, etc.) + a small yearly grant with which to cover other expenses (something as simple as having a DOI for each article might cost some money).<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't Xyz University be happy to sponsor "Xyz Open Access Journal of this-and-that"? Cheap advertisement for any not-yet-that-well-known university. That would look great in annual reports, too.<BR/><BR/>I would assume that having a sponsor is good even if you could run the journal for $0.00. The organisation would be interested in keeping the journal running even if unexpected things happen to the individuals who initiated the journal.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115565920452041799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-51966072405813587552009-03-04T12:09:00.000-06:002009-03-04T12:09:00.000-06:00There's also Contributions to Discrete Mathematics...There's also Contributions to Discrete Mathematics:<BR/><BR/>http://cdm.ucalgary.ca/index.php/cdmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com