So what to make of OpenAI and the future of Math? Here are some points I've either:
thought of myself or heard from a human or read from an AI.
Throughout this post I use the term AI to mean an AI system that produces mathematical results. I decline to say OpenAI or Anthropic as generic terms since about 20 years ago I used Intrade as a generic term for Betting Markets---then Intrade went out of business. I wish I had bet on that happening. Oh well.
1) Some of the proofs were Lean-formalized and some were not. If a proof is Lean-verified do we know the proof is valid? The issue is not bugs in Lean. The issue is that coding a theorem/proof into Lean may be done incorrectly. So Lean might be verifying a proof of a theorem different than what was intended.
Peter Woit, is a string-theory skeptic and a Lean-skeptic. See
here
Alexander Bastounis, Fabian Circelli, Anders Hansen argue that the Lean formalization does not correspond to the natural-language proof. See
here
My impression/predictions are:
(1) Lean has a good track record BUT we are in uncharted territory here.
(2) In the end humans will read, understand, and fix the proofs if necessary. This will take time.
(3) Humans will produce readable writeups that are enlightening. This will take time.
(4) Some bugs in Lean will be discovered and fixed. This will take time.
(5) Humans will learn how to better code theorems and proofs into the Lean language. This will take time.
2) Most (all?) of the papers were hard to read, even by experts. Lance asked Claude for a better written version of UGC and he got one:
here. Why didn't OpenAI ask Claude for better writeups?
3) A History of my thought on the Unique Game Conjecture:
In 2006 I thought the Unique Game Conjecture would be proved by 2011. I was wrong.
In 2016 I thought the Unique Game Conjecture would be proved by 2026. I was right.
In 2026 I thought the Unique Game Conjecture would be proved by 2046. I was right literally but wrong really since in January 2026 I was thinking 10-20 years, not 7 months.
4) Right now AI is merely combining known ideas and writing up the proofs badly as opposed to most mathematicians who come up with new ideas and they write them up well. I am, of course, kidding.
5) There have been barrier results along the lines of Technique X will not suffice to prove Y' Some papers say this informally, e.g., our methods cannot be extended and some papers say this formally, e.g., since there are oracles that force P=NP and oracles that force \(P\ne NP\), relativizing techniques do not suffice to resolve P versus NP (My PhD is on oracles, yet I replaced recursion-theoretic techniques with relativizing techniques because ChatGPT is the boss of me.)
What we really want to prove is that known techniques won't solve a problem, hence we need to look for new techniques.
If problem X has not been solved within 10 years by AI, then is it safe to assume that known techniques will not suffice?
Probably not:
a) AI will not make all connections between all the parts of math within 10 years, maybe not ever.
b) AI companies might stop having their machines work on math problems. I'm surprised they are doing that now since mathematicians who want to solve open problems are not a big market. Then again, they could advertise as follows:
Buy Our Theorem Prover and you Might Solve a $1,000,000 Math Problem!!! or a Salmon (see here)!!!
6) The notion that AI is combining known ideas is true but is not a problem. However, might the following happen: What if within 10 years all math that can be done with known techniques will have been done. Then either
a) Humans will step up to the plate and come up with new ideas. Let's hope they never stopped.
b) Humans will have lost the ability to come up with new ideas because they will have been spoiled by AI. Like if Lance and I had to become hunter-gatherer. Lance's initials would then stand for Lion Food, and Bill's initials would stand for Bear Grub. (I came up with Lion Food, but I asked Gemini for Bear Grub. I doubt you care. AI-disclosure can be stupid.)
c) AI will be able to come up with new ideas. The current LLM models probably can't do that but they may help design something that can.
d) As noted in comments 5, AI companies might give up on this line of work.
7) When Deep Blue beat Kasparov an ordinary citizen could not purchase a computer that would play grandmaster-level chess. Now an ordinary citizen can download for free a chess playing program that can beat the world chess champion.
Will this happen with AI for Math? Will an ordinary citizen be able to download for free, or pay a reasonable price for, an AI program that can prove hard theorems?
8) AI-assisted vs AI-generated may be a big distinction. Or not. Or it may be hard to tell the difference.
I can imagine working on a project where I do some, an AI does some, and I don't really want to figure out and report on who did what part. Similar to human co-authors today. This comes up when one of my HS students enters the Regeneron Science Talent Search and the forms ask in 16 different ways What was their contribution and What was your contribution? In the future will they ask What was the AI contribution?
9) Hypothetical:
I ask AI to prove \(P\ne NP\) and it gives me a proof that I rewrite to be readable. I submit it to STOC, honestly acknowledging what my contribution was, which is mostly exposition. Assume I meet the ACM authorship criteria.
a) Is the fact that I used AI held against me?
b) Should the paper get in?
c) Do I get the Millennium Prize and hence $1,000,000?
d) Do I win a Turing Award and hence another $1,000,000?
10) How is OpenAI making money on this? Three sources that I know of, New Scientist, Science Magazine, and Crypto Briefing (I am having trouble getting the links to work) put the cost at around 15 million dollars. After OpenAI spent that much money solving a Millennium problem, they stated that they would not try to collect the $1,000,000 (it's not clear they would have qualified for it). That seems odd. What is their business model? To generate buzz? If so then note the following:
I have asked my non-math friends (Lance is surprised I have non-math friends) if they have heard about the OpenAI Document Drop. No. Some had vaguely heard that AI solved an important problem that was worth some money, I assume that's Navier-Stokes, but that's it. No buzz.
The Atlantic Monthly has published an article about this titled
OpenAI Just Carpet-Bombed Mathematics (see here) This will give OpenAI more publicity. Is it good or bad publicity? There is a famous quote
there is no such thing as bad publicity. Is it true? See
here.
As I finish this post (Translation: As I argue with Chatty about this post) OpenAI has announced that it will give $5 million to the Simons Foundation initiative to help mathematicians examine, understand, and build on results produced by AI. That may help explain its community engagement, but the existence of a business model is still an open question.
As I finish this post (Translation: As I argue with my AI-skeptical proofreader) my proofreader announced that he knows OpenAI's business model:
Delusion and IPO or Delusion plus PR to get more funding. The IPO is looking less likely.
Is he right? Is that really a business model?
Here is a link about the business model:
here.
I wrote most of this blog post on Tuesday Oct 13, 2026. I posted it on Oct 18, 2026. Between Oct 13 and Oct 18 the post aged: at a funeral I went to today (Oct 16, 2026-Boss's day!) non-math people asked me Now that OpenAI can solve open math problems, how do you stop your students from cheating on homework? So non-math people have heard the news, though they don't quite understand it.
11) I told my Mom that AI had solved some problems that I cared about and that I was happy about that. She asked Can AI fix my answering machine and then have Lean verify that it works?
12) On Scott's blog (see here), comment number 12 by Tristan, perhaps unintentionally, raised an interesting question. Here are some quotes from Tristan's comment:
But perhaps the occasion calls for a little reflection. If a pattern-interpolating autocomplete can produce your theorem quite so readily, one is entitled to wonder how intellectually demanding the enterprise was to begin with. Perhaps what you took for creativity and insight was, on closer inspection, neither.
Algebraic geometry [Tristan's field] is, mercifully, a field in which genuine creativity remains indispensable: one must actually conceive and construct new mathematical objects, rather than rearrange familiar patterns and dignify the exercise with the word `discovery'. It is precisely this sort of work that lies beyond the capacities of a glorified autocomplete.
a) Such elegant arrogance! Such elegant nonsense! Such arrogant nonsense!
b) This is the kind of quote that will age badly once OpenAI begins solving problems in Algebraic Geometry.
c) I disagree with him: there are easy and hard problems in all fields of math. Algebraic Geometry is an older field, so perhaps there is less low-hanging fruit. But this is a minor point and not the fundamental difference he makes it out to be. And I hardly call the Unique Game Conjecture or L=RL low hanging fruit.
d) Still, to turn his thoughts into an intelligent question: What types of math problems are more prone to have AI solve them?
e) Scott later left the comment:
LOL! That was a delightful parody (at least, I assume it's a parody) of what I've now heard dozens of times in earnest.
Bill here: I FELL FOR IT.
f) Anon later left a comment that flagged Tristan's post as AI-generated by running it through an AI program to detect AI-generated writings:
here.
Bill here: I NEVER SUSPECTED IT WAS AI. FROM NOW ON I WILL SUSPECT EVERYTHING IS AI.
13) A 1985 article in Kvant, a Soviet Mathematics Magazine, by Uspenskii and Semenov, titled Solvable and Unsolvable Algorithmic Problems, contained the following quote:
Tarski's result [that elementary geometry is decidable] appears to be, and actually is, extremely powerful and even paradoxical. There is a very extensive area of classical mathematics (namely elementary geometry) which is traditionally thought to require a subtle intellect and which can by no means be reduced to carrying out routine computations, and yet, at the same time, there is an algorithm that can verify the truth of theorems in the area (and provide the proofs). We can console ourselves only in the fact that Tarski's algorithm is not realistic: it requires an inconceivably great amount of time for its implementation.
I leave it to the reader to adapt this quote to the current situation. Or not.
14) So what now for mathematicians? For Math grad students?
a) OpenAI says its model attempted roughly 4000 problems and reported results for 372 families, some full and some partial. So there is still plenty that OpenAI can't do. But who knows what the future will bring?
b) There are plenty more problems that OpenAI was not given.
c) There is a lot more to research than research. (Both ChatGPT and my proofreader think the last sentence was a typo. It's not.) There are surveys, blogs, raising questions, and rewriting proofs so they are readable. Will Tenure committees, the NSF, and others, see it that way?
e) I wonder if in the future the quality of exposition may be more important since the journals and conferences will just assume that the brilliant ideas were done by AI and give the human less credit. If Math dissertations end up being more readable, I call that a win.
I suppose having a good intuition for whether it will be 10 years or 7 months is important for doing research and, in particular, for being a good PhD advisor.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Tarski's algorithm, the point seems to be that if you aren't going to spend eternity doing elementary geometry, you better develop a subtle intellect. So, intellect still has its uses.
there are extremists on both side, those who claim AI will not be able to do things that it is clear for anyone who understand these systems a bit that it can do, and those who think it can do everything.
ReplyDeletethe future is uncertain, we have not yet reached the limits of what AI systems can do yet, but it does not mean there is no limit. the AGI hype guys _believe_ there is no limit.
how do they make money? they don't, and there is a very high chance that they will not. OpenAI estimates that it will be losing OpenAI scale money till 2030 at least.
financial analysts don't see how AI companies overall can get even close to the total revenue that is needed to justify the current capital investment, but many investors don't understand that or believe they are going to be the few winners left after the crash or they are riding the hype while it lasts. just ask any finance person how much annual revenue is needed to justify the capital invested in OpenAI and Anthropic and ... and you will see the numbers do not make sense even if AI hype story. the crash is going to happen, it is only a matter of time, it might happen next year or 3 years from now, or whenever the cheap capital for AI disappears. AI can be transformative and yet not able to justify the current CapEx.
AI hype guys will tell you you don't know how transformative it will be, but there are fundamental laws of finance that can tell you even if you go with the most optimistic story for AI from financial perspective, the numbers don't add up
OpenAI and others are using math as a goal post towards AGI, they want to say: of we can do better than top mathematicians in the world, surely we can do anything. they do not care about math and they are not planning on making money from proving math results. 15 million is throw away money for these companies. OpenAI annual loss is in $XX B to $XXX B range.
I think it's not so much about winning money that would come with YUUGEE DELAY and uncertainty ... it's about prestige and associated with that job security perhaps if you are after money.
ReplyDeleteIf you are a nobody in academia i think chances of winning even if benefiting from the reward are nil or zero.
1. Justin Bieber wins Turing award for solving P=NP!
2. Kindergarten kiddo solves PvsNP by this newly ingenious proof that makes use of highly tricky matrix computation and exploits deep algebraic structure of the Zeta function.
3. High school senior did resolve after intense summer research experience the P vs NP, his results implies that deep convolutional network graphs can provide probabilistically correct ring structures.
or
4. Agonized Postdoc solved finally the PvsNP problem. After finalzing yet another funding proposal, he provided the correct prompt to finalize a proof that he was able to understand and narrate.
5. retired professor.....
so I think the most likely ones to win and benefit from awards are 4. and 5. less likely are ones that never had any dealings. At least it would take ages for their work to get recognized.
> Lance asked Claude for a better written version of UGC and he got one: here
ReplyDeletelink absent?
I put the link in.
Delete"Humans will have lost the ability to come up with new ideas because they will have been spoiled by AI. Like if Lance and I had to become hunter-gatherer."
ReplyDeleteA non sequitur? False simile? What is implied here?
My intention was that humans no longer have the ability to hunt and gather since technology has made it unnecsary- has spoiled us. I just used Lance and me as an example.
DeleteHumans love hunting and fishing. They don't give a toss if AI takes away reading and writing and maths, but don't let it take away the best fishing spots or their hunting rifles!
ReplyDeleteI congratulate my fellow humans on figuring out how best to drain every ounce of fossil fuel reserves on this tiny planet (lest we forget in our AI induced euphoria, fossil fuel sourced from the sun and diligently sequestered over hundreds of millions of years by past life, the only phenomenon unique to Earth) to drive such absolutely indispensable everyday needs as Instagram reels, AI-generated earth-shattering content and same-day Amazon package delivery.
ReplyDeletePayback time with compounded interest is here; current super-El-Nino is only a tiny tip of a vast iceberg (a metaphor soon to be rendered obsolete as icebergs themselves are going going gone).
Bloomberg reported today that according to leaked Anthropic's S1 filing for its IPO next month, it has lost over $80B so far this year. and there is no end in sight when they will turn profitable.
ReplyDeleteit is supposedly the best one among these AI labs in making money