tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post2399485939164855384..comments2024-03-27T19:58:17.387-05:00Comments on Computational Complexity: InnovationLance Fortnowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06752030912874378610noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-83398096411795564162009-11-16T00:20:38.701-06:002009-11-16T00:20:38.701-06:00observer, Rivest can be found here
http://itcs.tsi...observer, Rivest can be found here<br />http://itcs.tsinghua.edu.cn/MiniWorkshop/content/invitedSpeakers.html. <br /><br />*BTW, Can somebody post a list of 10 papers from FOCS and STOC 2005-2009, that you believe will have/ had serioud impact ? It will be good to know these best 10 papers of five years.* ? anyone ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-75204887276920130012009-11-13T02:27:54.187-06:002009-11-13T02:27:54.187-06:00interesting point, observer. Very intersting.interesting point, observer. Very intersting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-53804135192616561362009-11-12T23:29:33.871-06:002009-11-12T23:29:33.871-06:00While Ron Rivest is not part of the program commit...While Ron Rivest is not part of the program committee, how can his sudden appearance at ITCS be explained ? Any ideas ?observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-51647807518604318242009-11-09T06:24:46.539-06:002009-11-09T06:24:46.539-06:00Two cents worth:
It would probably not be too ha...Two cents worth: <br /><br />It would probably not be too harsh to say that people @ITCS are in need of some significant results given the pressure of expectation to perform and also the pressure imposed by all those that have been funding its cause. <br /><br />The institute has realized that new "revolutionary ideas" cannot come from within, thus the outcry to interlink in form of establishing and promoting programs with other universities in HK, Japan and the U.S.<br /><br />The effort is of course laudable but then again, laudable to what extent ? If you start hiring only recent MIT (/cornell) grads ? Does this say something about MIT or ITCS or better what ITCS is striving for ? Does it want to become a MIT's clone ? <br />It would have been far more laudable if people could show "hey, we have come thus far without all this help. We have devised our own original curricula not because we are "franchising" in some capacity but because we are creative and innovative enough to do so. That indeed would be heroic and laudable. <br /><br />However, "outsourcing" or plainly "franchising" of the kind that is being promoted now is nothing new and thus also not commendable to the extent it has been ... the PR surrounded by the great efforts is "a little bit" exaggerated and thus disturbing. Yet everytime something happens, it is classified as heroically "patriotic". There is of course a sense of irony here since strictly speaking not everyone in the top administration @ITCS shares the same nationality (if one inspects closely enough). <br /><br />To anon#7: There is of course one important result by Xiaotie Deng and Xi Chen. Again, if you look closely enough this result wasn't conceived @ITCS but at Xiaotie Deng's City University in Hong Kong. And look at where Xi Chen is now ? The real challenge is to keep people at ITCS.<br /><br />To anon#8: Yes, a lot of "mini results". Whether these are worth it or not, is for others to decide. Also, an interesting issue arises, what can be said about papers that have 5 or more authors ? <br /><br />To charlie: emm, yeah, you have to recheck, that person is not actually part of the program committee. But if this is a remark on overall competence, that's altogether a different point which I won't touch on here.<br /><br />To anon#4: three stories of three different people I am indirectly aware of. Generally, folks who didn't find things as they had initially expected (or being promised ?). One of the stories that I have been told is so ridiculous that it's kinda very upsetting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-72257488833348478732009-11-09T03:21:51.100-06:002009-11-09T03:21:51.100-06:00last anon:
nearly correct. To be nicely diplomatic...last anon:<br />nearly correct. To be nicely diplomatic, it did accept some "random" ideas from superb people. Which I think makes somehow somewhat sense.<br /><br />What shouldn't be surprising is the amount of publications given the inflow of huge funding. Any decent university would most likely have a similar output results (or better). Then again what about the quality ???? <br />Many mini results ...............................................Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-39762753263555888992009-11-09T00:45:39.388-06:002009-11-09T00:45:39.388-06:00It looks like some people cannot even distinguish ...It looks like some people cannot even distinguish between local arrangement committee and program committee. ICS no doubt has an excellent program committee and superb steering committee, so at least we can be assured, that it has not and will not accept papers on "random" ideas. <br /><br />BTW, Can somebody post a list of 10 papers from FOCS and STOC 2005-2009, that you believe will have/ had serioud impact ? It will be good to know these best 10 papers of five years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-28067403106664216082009-11-09T00:03:26.822-06:002009-11-09T00:03:26.822-06:00the issue related to Professor Yuexuan Wang is ver...the issue related to Professor Yuexuan Wang is very compelling. I am always interested to know more especially before sending out my postdoc application.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-2158324239065814002009-11-08T18:54:29.844-06:002009-11-08T18:54:29.844-06:00and Bill's land too...and Bill's land too...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-17995267512916800112009-11-07T20:48:13.515-06:002009-11-07T20:48:13.515-06:00I've heard some pretty wild and sad stories ab...I've heard some pretty wild and sad stories about how visitors are treated over there. Seems to be like on the mood basis. <br /><br />But I agree with anon#1 that's not the place to raise your opinion (even if true and factual) about Yuexuan Wang nor problems related to her or other things.<br /><br />It's a place that adheres to strict diplomatic manners. <br /><br />I am not saying this because I sympathize with either the person in question or the school, but I am saying it out of courtesy to the Lance who provides this space for us to use. We are all visitors in the Lance Land, let's not forget this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-7877822385072227042009-11-07T16:56:24.317-06:002009-11-07T16:56:24.317-06:00Charlie is trolling. Yuexuan Wang is not in the PC...Charlie is trolling. Yuexuan Wang is not in the PC, but in the local arrangements committee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-21092429232827711582009-11-07T07:08:33.375-06:002009-11-07T07:08:33.375-06:00Charlie and "inteersting"
Please don...Charlie and "inteersting"<br /><br />Please don't pollute the discussion with unnecssary comments. That the committee is fantastic is an evaluation of the set collectively, which I think everyone agrees, is indeed fantastic. I am sure exceptions like you point to can be found everywhere, but don't seem to harm the quality of the conferences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-14241466641953301032009-11-07T04:49:36.673-06:002009-11-07T04:49:36.673-06:00charlie,
that's very interesting. while I do ...charlie, <br />that's very interesting. while I do not know anyone in person at that place, I know of some people who work(ed) there and I think that they had similar views on that specific matter.<br /><br />A general theme, once you obtain a certain position in academia the process of getting published becomes much easier despite the quality of your work. <br />Generally, I have a mixed feelings about what is happening over there. but it's certainly interesting to watch.interestingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-9469610052980969122009-11-06T23:05:07.893-06:002009-11-06T23:05:07.893-06:00fantastic programme committee ?
Yes, most of the...fantastic programme committee ?<br /><br />Yes, most of the names have been bought with money and funding from our political party. Academically Ms Wang doesnt make sense to be on board committee. I have not seen any breakthrough idea by Yuexuan WANG neither any decent paper. Rumour has it that her publications are accepted by status of her position.charlienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-82346148180962619762009-11-06T11:58:18.637-06:002009-11-06T11:58:18.637-06:00I think it is great to have a conference that push...I think it is great to have a conference that pushes innovations. However, I see a lot of papers which have been rejected from other conferences, for good reasons. Often the questions/problems are just not interesting and too quirky. I hope that ICS does not become a conference which accepts "random ideas" only.<br /><br />Nevertheless, ICS has great potential. It also has the money and a fantastic programme committee to actually pull it off.<br />I fully agree with Lance, we will see in 5 years time what ICS is worth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-45979751398182948662009-11-05T10:17:35.910-06:002009-11-05T10:17:35.910-06:00Hi Lance,
Would you be so kind to add the PDF lin...Hi Lance,<br /><br />Would you be so kind to add the PDF link to your paper with Rahul Santhanam "Bounding Rationality by Discounting Time" in this post (assuming you've made the PDF file accessible online already)?<br /><br />Thanks.Kemptonhttp://kempton.ideasrevolution.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3722233.post-74272980740057283982009-11-05T09:35:22.802-06:002009-11-05T09:35:22.802-06:00From my point of view (more interested in graphs a...From my point of view (more interested in graphs and geometry than in classical game theory, derandomization, or quantum computing) the list of accepted paper titles is almost indistinguishable from those at FOCS/STOC. So I am a little surprised to see you say they are orthogonal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com